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 mellowman
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Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: What's the oldest soundtrack on SST? |
 
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I came across The Adventures of Robin Hood by Korngold and noticed it was written in 1938. I wondered if there were any older scores on SST and what the oldest actually was... |
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Mellow, are you talking about the score release date or when it was actually composed? I've noticed that those dates don't often coincide. For example: the score for Ben Hur (the silent movie version) was composed by William Axt in 1925 but re-scored by Carl Davis in 1987. SST has the Carl Davis score.
But I did find this one... 
King Kong by Max Steiner is 1933
Edit: I've also noticed that the year given by SST on a specific score seems to be the release date not the date of the composition. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (and I know that someone will )
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Yep, good point, gen. I guess I'm talking about when the original score for film was written rather than the release date - because I'm guessing a lot of release dates will be much more recent then when they were written.
But 1933 beats mine, gen! |
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i have found this.... Les Misérables / La Roue / Mermoz / Napoléon i hope it is what for ya 
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OptimisprimalX
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Well perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd guess that the music for Amadeus was written a little bit before those others. |
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Optimis: Yes, the music _IN_ "Amadeus" was written long before the others, but the difference is this: it wasn't written _FOR_ "Amadeus." I'm wondering whether that Honegger album is truly the oldest original music written _FOR_ a film that is presently in the SST library.
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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We have GWTW, I guess it would be second oldest.
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| don0don wrote: |
| ...that Honegger album is truly the oldest original music written _FOR_ a film that is presently in the SST library. |
I think you're right, Don. La Roue was composed in 1922. The others on that compilation are late 20s-early 30s.
Other early ones besides GWTWind that Thur mentioned are:
Korngold's Captain Blood - 1933
Steiner's King Kong - 1933
Chaplin's "Smile" from Modern Times - 1936 (SST has the Barry rendition)
Prokofiev's Alexander Nevsky - 1938 |
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Well the oldest scores for movies were actaully played live in the cinemas by an orchestra. And since the first movie was in 1890 (I think that was about the right time....a french film if I remember....could look it up but can't be ar$ed), I would guess the first actual movie score would have been composed in the early 1900's...
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The probably first original music for a film was composed by Camille Saint-Saèns in 1908 for the movie "The Assassination of the Duke de Guise", of course a silent movie back then. |
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Thanks for all the trivia facts! 
Of course the original topic was "What's the oldest soundtrack on SST?" It would be kinda cool to hear the ones you mentioned though. Anybody know if they've been re-recorded?
I've been tempted to send in some magnificent theatre pipe organ music for SST. I have several wonderful CDs but there isn't one that's just perfect for here. Either they have some non-movie music like "When The Saints Go Marching In" or it's too modern like "Star Wars". Maybe just 1 or 2 tracks would be fun to hear though like "That's Entertainment".
Live365 has a station called Theatre Organ Replay where the owner has converted thousands of LP tracks to digital. It's a wonderful homage to the great organists of a bygone era. |
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Diane26
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'The Assassination of the Duke de Guise' has not been widely available for some time. However, there have been a few recordings of it.
Our favorite is the 1993 Harmonia Mundi release with the Ensemble Musique Oblique. Composed for piano, woodwinds and strings, the unique thing about this particular recording is that Harmonia Mundi preserved the original structure created by Saint-Saëns for the film, subdivided in five 'tables'.
Leonard Slatkin has been a major supporter of the work and he usually schedules it in his film music programme with the National Symphony Orchestra.
I believe the above recording can still be obtained from Amazon France.
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Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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By the way Camille Saint-Saëns is the best composer of the entire world.
Or maybe he's just my favorite one ^^ |
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| Miaou wrote: |
By the way Camille Saint-Saëns is the best composer of the entire world.
Or maybe he's just my favorite one ^^ |
Well, i agree that Saint-Saens was one of the greatest child prodigies the world has ever seen, and his organ symphony is nothing to sneeze at, but the best composer of the entire world nod i give to Beethoven followed by JS Bach...Can you say which are your favorite works by Camille?....do you love the piano concerti?
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