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 Furyen
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject: Turntables (LP's) |
 
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Does anyone know any good programs that let you take Music from LP's to computers?
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Twopop 
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Joined: Jul 21, 2004
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Posts: 2673
Location: Oregon
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I recently asked a friend who is a pro in the industry about LP-to-CD transfers. He sent me a small program called CDWave190.exe, which I'd be happy to email to you or anyone else who wants it.
Here's what he had to say:
"Vinyl to CD... prepare yourself for lots of handwork. The process is
pretty simple (will sound harder reading it than doing it) but it's
time-intensive.
Basically you need to hook up a Line Out from an amplifier, or your home
stereo receiver, to the Line In on the computer. The trick is getting the
Line In level on the computer at the right level, so the records don't sound
clipped, or too soft on the computer. (On mine, the Line In level always
seems to be about 1/3 of the way up, on my computer.)
I use CD Wave Editor, which I've attached - to do the recording. With it,
you can record an entire side, then go back and split it into separate
tracks quite easily. More on that later. I just use the sound card in my
computer - built-in motherboard thing. Seems to be fine.
I record it with CD Wave Editor (as one big file, per side) then I take it
to Adobe Audition (or Sound Forge, but I've been using Audition lately) and
trim off any flotsam at the beginning of the file, and the end of the file.
Then I apply a click/pop removal filter, then after that, I apply a hiss
reduction filter. After that, I take it back to CD Wave Editor, and split
the piece into the separate tracks. After that, I burn it using a burning
software. (RecordNow is what I use, but Roxio, Nero, etc would work.)
This is the basic process. Here's an important part: turntables are not
'Line Level' output, so you have to hook it up to some sort of amp or
receiver that has a "Phono" input. Hopefully it will be a RIAA-spec input.
(If it's a stereo receiver, it is. I used to use a small crappy Radio Shack
mixer, but it made thin, icky recordings from phono.) I now use a small,
$30-ish phono pre-amp that is RIAA-spec. I couldn't find one around town,
so I ordered it online some time ago from a DJ supply place, which I don't
recall. (Do a search on 'phono preamp.') Stuff sounds great, plus I use a
terribly expensive, excellently-built, balanced and tuned Eastern European
turntable (built by a factory that makes audiophile equipment, but used to
build tanks!) I decided a while ago, I was going to buy one last turntable
for the rest of my life, before they're gone forever. I even went so far as
to get the 78rpm pullies and belt, and needle, just in case.  The
turntable's ground wire connects to the little phono preamp box.
Ages ago, in the early dawn of home CD burning, I had a copy of (what is now
Roxio) - and it had something like "Dr. DJ," or some such, and was supposed
to make easy work of transferring. It alleged it would record,
automatically split the tracks, clean up the pops and hiss, etc. Stupid
piece of trash crashed all the time, or after recording 20+ minutes of one
side of a record, I'd hit stop, and it would crash and burn. Never again
have I tried any of the 'automated' procedures. But hardware and software
has stabilized over the years... but maybe it's ok now." |
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Tjoe
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Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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Location: Second City
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Of the 5.7 GIG (more than 70 hours worth of no repeats) of Christmas music that I now have (and will start listening to again the day after HALLOWEEN and continue listening to until somewhere between easter and memorial day  ), almost half of it was from LP. It took me more than 2 years to get them all ripped, separated, cleaned up (many pops), and tagged. One year, I was listening and editing up to July, took a short break into September and then continued
Yep, now you all have proof that I'm insane
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Twopop
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Joined: Jul 21, 2004
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Location: Oregon
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| It took me more than 2 years to get them all ripped, separated, cleaned up (many pops), and tagged. One year, I was listening and editing up to July...now you all have proof that I'm insane. |
Sounds like a true labor of love, TJ. I'm so impressed. So what software program(s) do you use for clean-up and editing? |
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Tjoe
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Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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Location: Second City
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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ah, very basic stuff I'm afraid... MusicMatch for recording and ID3 tagging, and a program called GoldWave for editing. I tried a small handful of the file editing software and found that most of them are much too complicated for me. They have way too many controls that I'm sure make sense to a music professional, but not someone who just likes music.
You have a couple of options in recording albums. You can have the software automatically stop/start new track when between songs, but it does it by waiting for a few second long silence. I found this to cause more trouble than it saved as I was getting some songs cut up due to irregular pauses and such, so I just made it manual. I would sometimes record an entire album side and come back later to break it apart, or I would listen through easy song and stop/start as needed.
I paid the small fee to upgrade both MusicMatch and GoldWave so that I could take advantage of their special features, or in the case of GoldWave, make more than 20 mouse clicks before having to restart the software. By default, GoldWave could not save in the MP3 format, but you download a plug-in like module (free) called LAME and it works.
Then the real fun begins... the hundreds and hundreds of hours editing out the pops and such and then tagging. But, if you love the music that much, the time will hardly feel like work
www.MusicMatch.com
www.GoldWave.com
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