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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:40 am   Post subject: 128kbit on subscription Reply with quote


I am a long time listener and donator of SST. The day the Ogg Streams were canceled I reduced donations though. The newly setup Ogg streams are slow and broken and no longer an option. I have to say that MP3 64kbit is not the best choice for soundtracks. They sound too compressed and muddy. So what do you guys think about a monthly subscription of about $5-$10 for higher quality bitrates?

Has this been discussed already here?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:57 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


Nothing wrong with the ogg streams. They work like a charm here.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:13 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


Never had a prob w/ ogg either.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:33 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


I'm not too interested in high bitrate streams. aacPlus non-Live365 and mp3PRO Live365 will be the future. However, I do have plans to implement WMA streams of probably 128k and 32k. Some other things need to be worked out first in order for that to happen though.

Ogg works good here too.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:37 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


I have the same problem as philk. Here (in France) the 64k ogg stream is often (but not always) completely inaudible. The problem seem to appear on every track change: when the next track begins, it keeps buffering and never start to play again.

I don't think it cames from my side because i have more bandwidth than enough and tried with several players.
It is strange the issue only appears for some of us... Maybe it comes from how far we are from the server ?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:20 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


ogg runs fine with absolutly no problems. If you experience problems with ogg it is at your end.

To me 128kbps is a waste of bandwith. You do not gain much quality increase than MP3pro.

We can spend our resources better getting more listeners than providing 128 kbps to a limited number of users with all the administration involved.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:28 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


uhmmm folks... 128kb is a great difference to 64k-mp3pro. Not with your average pc-speakers maybe. But with headsets and semi-pro loudspeakers the lack of clarity is very audible.
So when 128kb mp3 even on subscription are out of question how much has the aacPlus or WMA 128kbit progressed so far?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:05 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


Stupid question :-) :

Do you have the mp3pro plugin installed?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:19 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


Not much philk. Still waiting on SpacialAudio. aacPlus was due Dec05, then pushed to Feb06. No word yet. WMA can't happen until a bug is fixed on 64bit OSes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:27 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


yeah have the mp3pro plugin installed of course Smile
@JERIC Can you post a link describing the WMA 64bit problem?
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No link available. I've been working with Louis trying to get this resolved.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:22 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


I would also love to see a OGG (or aac+) 128kbit stream - only for VIP's would be fine aswell, wouldn't mind paying for such a stream.

The difference with moving up to 128kbit is indeed audiable, at least if you have a good soundcard, good amps, good speakers, etc.

You could even make it an optional extra, only available to VIP's, costing 5$ extra/month ?
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LIIT wrote:
I would also love to see a OGG (or aac+) 128kbit stream - only for VIP's would be fine aswell, wouldn't mind paying for such a stream.

The difference with moving up to 128kbit is indeed audiable, at least if you have a good soundcard, good amps, good speakers, etc.

You could even make it an optional extra, only available to VIP's, costing 5$ extra/month ?


I've been thinking about that lately. It's a possibility.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:07 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


Just joined and love this place. The 64k ogg stream works fine for me using foobar 0.9.1 If I really was going to whine about the sound, I'd have gone and bought the albums and ripped in FLAC. Ogg at 64kbps sounds pretty darn good considering how small the filesize is. ^^
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I have never had any sound probs, though I don't actually know what player I am using. Does anyone know what player i-tunes uses?
Streaming Soundtracks appears in the eclectic folder of the radio list... I just double click it and off it goes... (sometimes with no advert first)
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