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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:49 pm   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


What do you think of the Academy Awards nominations for Best Original Score?

The nominees:

- Elmer Bernstein, for Far from Heaven
- Philip Glass, for The Hours
- Elliot Goldenthal, for Frida
- Thomas Newman, for Road to Perdition
- John Williams, for Catch Me If You Can

Not too many surprises...

I am pleasantly surprised that Thomas Newman got a nomination, though I think Elmer Bernstein will win it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 8:56 am   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


Of course I'm happy for the nomination of Thomas Newman. Road To Perdition is THE masterpiece.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 11:03 am   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


Well from the looks of that list, Iím pulling for Phillip Glass. I ďtriedĒ to like the Frida score, but I just donít understand what all the fuss is about, I mean its not THAT great.

Now what surprises me is that neither Two Towers nor Badeltís Time Machine scores were nominated. Someone told met that well LOTR is one film and can only get one nomination, and I understand that, but I consider the music to be separate. Each score has different themes, variations and structures, and should be treated separately. And Time Machine is one of the most wonderful scores of 2002, but obviously from that scores discussion thread itís up for debate.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 11:28 am   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


The LOTR films can receive as many separate nominations as the Academy sees fit.

My vote is for Catch Me If You Can, but I doubt it'll win.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:05 am   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


I totaly agree. In score terms they are seperate works and should be treated as such.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 12:16 pm   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


Though I don't agree with you on politics EyeDea, you are right on the money with Frida and The Time Machine. I'm very disappointed in this years nominations.

Other that could have been considered:
We Were Soldiers
Attck Of The Clones
Spirit
Spider-Man
Signs

I think Signs or The Time Machine would get my vote.
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Now I know that Iím not the only one. Very Happy I posted a thread about the time machine score and it got mixed reactions. Some people liked the score, others didnít, and some had not even heard of it.

Perhaps itís the lack of advertising by DreamWorks that didnít give Badelts score that needed extra push that other scores got. But then again, Two Towers was pushed beyond belief, and that didnít get Shore a nomination.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:02 pm   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


I think it can be overlooked becuase Klaus is a newbie and the movie bombed at the theatre too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:03 pm   Post subject: Any thoughts on the Oscar nominations? Reply with quote


I definatly think Road to Perdition should win. Very good film, and a fantastic score .
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:49 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


road to perdition should have won by a long shot, and newman deserves credit for his work. the frida score wasnt as nearly as good and i also think some of the nominations were scrambled and newton should have been nominated for signs, but oh well.
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As long as the composers don't feel bad about not being nominated etc, I don't care. It's just a big commercial thing.

The beautiful action scores of Bruce Broughton and for example Cutthroat Island from John Debney were never recognized...

If Bruce Broughton would get some more attention, then we would have some great years of filmmusic, but nobody knows him, and that's a pitty.

And you can also see that filmmusic isn't that important to the Academy, it is one of the first categories to get their Oscar and the whole thing doesn't last longer then 1 minute.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:30 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


Importance to the category during the awards show is based more on how important it is to the audience, than to the academy itself. Within the entertainment industry, all academy awards are equally important the day after, as the winning film composer will see a boost in his or her career just as the best actor will.

It is Mr. Joe and his wife sitting at home saying, "Film Score? Who cares about that!?", that puts categories like "best score" towards the beginning.
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I agree, and in a way it's positive that a great soundtrack isn't nominated. Because you see after Titanic being the big winner, James Horner' soundtracks after Titanic are just Titanic 2, 3,4, ... (ok, also before titanic, but not so many).

When a composer gets very popular, I get the feeling that the director says to the composer : "I would like something as great as you did on Titanic"

And btw, why aren't there two categories for soundtracks anymore?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:20 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote


Kristofke wrote:
I agree, and in a way it's positive that a great soundtrack isn't nominated. Because you see after Titanic being the big winner, James Horner' soundtracks after Titanic are just Titanic 2, 3,4, ... (ok, also before titanic, but not so many).

When a composer gets very popular, I get the feeling that the director says to the composer : "I would like something as great as you did on Titanic"

And btw, why aren't there two categories for soundtracks anymore?


Well, that's not always true. John Williams has won five times and he is still pretty good.

And to answer your question, I think it's because the Academy felt it was giving Alan Menken and Disney too many Oscars by having two categories. If you remember, Disney was winning two Oscars almost every year (one for score and the other for song): The Little Mermaid (1989), Beauty and the Beast (1991), Aladdin (1992), The Lion King (1994), Pochahontas (1995).
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